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The Devil’s Chessboard: Allen Dulles, the CIA, and the rise of America’s secret government

This show was broadcast on February 6, 2016.
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A conversation between the author, David Talbot, and Deep State analyst Peter Dale Scott, two authors who dedicated their work to revealing the under-cover world of US politics. David Talbot is doing it here in the form of a real life spy thriller – The Devil’s Chessboard – a book that is more intriguing than current fiction. Peter Dale Scott calls the invisible government the Deep State and has written several books defining the term.

In Talbot’s extraordinary new book, “The Devil’s Chessboard”, he explores Allen Dulles decade as the director of the CIA. With new material and never before heard interviews David Talbot shows that Dulles saw himself as above the law, manipulating and subverting American presidents. Talbot outlines how Allen Dulles pursued his personal interests and those of the wealthy elite he counted as his friends and clients. When the US rose to world power after Word War II one man had incomparable influence: Allen Dulles – spokesperson and lawyer for Wall Street and the most powerful corporations, including members of the oil cartels.

Allen Dulles defined and helped build what became known as the secret government – and within that the CIA. David Talbot – in his book “The Devil’s Chessboard” – described how Dulles saw himself and the CIA as above the law, secretly pursuing policies that stood in clear contradiction to presidential or congressional mandates.


In Part ONE Talbot and Scott cover Dulles’ collusion with Nazi-controlled cartels and German war criminals; and how he targeted foreign leaders for assassination and removed, for example in Iran, nationalist governments not in line with his political aims.

In Part TWO of their conversation Scott and Talbot begin with the aftermath of WWII where the future of war time intelligence services, and the future relations to the USSR and what became the Cold War, are being decided. President Truman resisted the conversion of the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) into the CIA. However Allen Dulles had different plans. He had rejoined Sullivan and Cromwell, a law firm with huge impact on international affairs, and powerful corporate clients. Dulles also had close relations with the Council on Foreign Relations. Founded in 1921 and still very active today, it is a think tank specializing in U.S. foreign policy, headquartered in New York City. The CFR promotes globalization, free trade, reducing financial regulations, and support regional blocs such as NAFTA or the TPP. These are the forces that shaped post war policy more than any actions by the post war US administration.

In Part THREE – the question and answer period where one issue keeps coming up: How much of the post war secret state has survived – and how in many ways has that secret state become even more powerful today.

From a TUC Radio Production. Laura Sheppard is the Director of Events at the Mechanics Institute. She introduced the speakers. Recorded by the Mechanics Institute staff in San Francisco on December 2, 2015.

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